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title: "Surveillance"
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# surveillance and what we can do against it
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## [maia arson crimew](https://maia.crimew.gay)
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## maia arson crimew
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* is 25 years old <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* uses it(/she) pronouns <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* has (allegedly) been a hacktivist since 2019 <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* got indicted in 2021 ^-^ oopie <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* leaked the 2019 version of the US no fly list in 2023 <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* is an investigative journalist and columnist <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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## agenda
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* stalkerware
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* verkada
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* using their tools against them
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* OSINT, or: how to find adrian dittmann
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* my friendship with luís montenegro \<3
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* the telemessage saga
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* HackingTeam and swiss universities?
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* the fight starts with you
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## stalkerware
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<small>*background illustration by [Mukky's World](https://mukkysworld.neocities.org/)*</small>
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## stalkerware
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* commercially available spyware
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* mostly used to spy on spouses or kids <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* hidden from the target <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* usually requires brief physical access <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* between $20-$200+/month <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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## stalkerware
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we surveil ourselves and each other,</br>this is more and more normalized
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not just stalkware, also
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- snap map
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- airtags
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- strava
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## stalkerware
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governments love stalkerware too
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- examples from june 2024 mspy leak
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- stalkerware is in legal gray area, presumably much easier to acquire than government grade spyware, even for governments
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## stalkerware
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governments love stalkerware too
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/yaniv.jpg"/>
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- email from 2014
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- yaniv azani
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- cto of national cyber unit of israel police
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- attempting to buy whitelabelled mspy for israel
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- did not come to fruition
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## stalkerware
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governments love stalkerware too
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/irgoun.jpg"/>
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- email from 2016
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- luc schwab (swiss national)
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- ran an israeli security/mercenary company (now runs one in geneva)
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- asking for whitelabel mspy for government customers
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- presumably for israel, only one named
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- mspy turns them down but adds them to a potential list of future whitelabel partners
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## stalkerware
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other interested government agencies included:
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* more private security companies working with goverments
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* royal thai police
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* vietnam defense ministry
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* nebraska national guard
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* united arab emirates
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* italian law enforcement
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* tasmanian police
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- i found no sale occuring
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- just mspy receiving this manyr equests means others probably receive just as many
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- governments may be using others
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- flexispy (other big player) for example offers whitelabel solution
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## stalkerware
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* stalkerware services are constantly being hacked
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* constant hacks and bad press make it hard to run a profitable business <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* hacks also allow us an insight into the industry <!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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Stalkerware constantly getting hacked is also a good reason why no one should ever use that kind of software
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## verkada
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/bloomberg.jpg"/>
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- shortly before indictment in 2021
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- alongside hacking group
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- breached cloud based surveillance startup verkada
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- accessing over 150k cameras, primarily in the US
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- cameras inside:
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- tesla factories & dealerships
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- cloudflare headquarters
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- jails, health clinics and hospitals
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## verkada
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- fined 2.95mil usd by FTC
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- for security lapse and violation of CAN-SPAM act
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## using their tools against them
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- society built around surveillance has a flaw
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- its surveillance
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- data collected by said surveillance and the tools used for surveillance can be used by journalists and hacktivists
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verkada is one such example, in the following there is some more
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## OSINT
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### or, how to find Adrian Dittmann
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* OSINT stands for open source intelligence
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* its a form of intelligence that relies on publicly available data.
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## OSINT
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### or, how to find Adrian Dittmann
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/adrian-x.jpg"/>
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* Adrian Dittmann is a twitter influencer
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* posts about crypto and AI
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* massive fan of elon musk.
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* blew up because people believed he was an alt of musks
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* he talks somewhat similarly to musk and often praises him
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* this did not seem quite right to me
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* started invesigating with ryan fae last december
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## OSINT
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### or, how to find Adrian Dittmann
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<img src="/img/posts/adrian-dittmann/snusbase.png"/>
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* quick search for his alleged name on paid breach tool
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* brings up an email address and a location in fiji
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* breached from an ai background removal tool in 2024
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* fiji would make sense
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* dittman previously stated he is german, grew up in gibraltar and morocco and now lives in oceania
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* this would also explain his accent
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### or, how to find Adrian Dittmann
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* search for his email on osint.industries
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* i receive free journalist access to osint industries
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* shows number of other accounts
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* german and fijian phone number
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* google account with a single maps review in fiji
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* review talks about steaks, this will be more relevant later
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### or, how to find Adrian Dittmann
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* google search for "dittmann fiji" shows a dittmann family in fiji
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* they own various companies in germany, switzerland and fiji
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* family company registrations show they are originally from germany
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* they then lived in gibraltar for a while and moved to fiji around 2012
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* main relevant company is aquam insula (luxury water and yachting supplies company)
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* a youtube video on the fiji government channel shows opening of companies "maritime lifestyle warehouse
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* footage shows adrian dittmann and his partner in foreground (see slide)
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## OSINT
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### or, how to find Adrian Dittmann
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<img src="/img/posts/adrian-dittmann/ring.png"/>
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* in same video we see a ring on fiji adrians finger
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* this matches a ring visible in some of twitter adrians steak cooking streams.
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* as i said steaks are oddly relevant to this
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* there is even more evidence we go over in our article
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* for anyone still skeptical after having seen our original reporting:
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## OSINT
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### or, how to find Adrian Dittmann
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/facereveal.jpg"/>
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* more on the steak streams
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* about a month after initial reporting
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* post on bluesky from someone archiving all adrian dittmann streams
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* reflection of his face is visible in a steak cooking stream
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### or, how to find Adrian Dittmann
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- ramble on adrian and musk relationship, why musk played along
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- just a quick example of how powerful osint is for journalism and not just for government ingelligence
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- ultimately investigative journalism is also just intelligence
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</br>
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</br>
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- but what about the rich and powerful?
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## my friendship with luís montenegro \<3
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/montenegro.jpg"/>
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<small>*Image credit: Lukas Gut, [Tiny Kitten vs. The 2nary System](https://www.ensemblefilm.ch/portfolio/tiny-kitten-vs-the-2nary-system-by-marisa-meier/), ensemble film*</small>
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- who is luis montenegro
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- corrupt portuguese premier who just got reelected
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- number found by googling for the name of the front company he received bribes with
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- osint industries confirmed telegram and signal account with his name
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- i messaged both numbers to try and get comment on the developing corruption story
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- he never replied
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- out of curiosity i try calling him one day, he doesnt pick up
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- i try to call again later but call does not go through
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- conclusion: he saw my messages and decided to block me
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- you can just bully these people. its fun and its free
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<small>*NOTE: this is a retelling of a very recent series of hacks based on publicly available information, parts of this may be inaccurate*</small>
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- april 30st
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- us national security advisor mike waltz
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- photographed checking signal on phone during white house meeting by reuters photographer
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- previous signal incident with mike waltz
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- had invited journalist to secret chat discussing anti houthi war plans
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- journalists and hacktivists immediately spring into action
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## the telemessage saga
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- may 1st
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- news stories pop up about how his signal app is modified
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- telemessage (israeli-american company, founded by unit 8200 guys)
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- provides archival regulation compliance for govts and financial institutions
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- lets employees use their preferred messengers while archiving
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## the telemessage saga
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By may 3rd the source code of the telemessage signal wrapper including hardcoded credentials leaks
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## the telemessage saga
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/telemessage-hacked.jpg"/>
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- may 4th
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- telemessage is hacked
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- hackers found trivial vulnerability
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- archival backend has endpoint allowing server memory dumps
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- no auth requires
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- over the course of about a day about 400gb of data is collected
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</br>
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- contained within are plain text messages and metadata such as contacts and group names
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- data is published by ddosecrets by may 19th
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## the telemessage saga
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According to reuters (full circle) and Micah Lee who analyzed the dataset it contained around 60 thousand messages from:
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- cbp officials
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- US diplomatic staffers
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- at least one white house staffer
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- members of the US secret service
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- dc police
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- employees of andreesen horowitz
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- jp morgan
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- others
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not only the government can spy on us, we can spy on them too. and its often way easier than you'd think.
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## HackingTeam and swiss universities?
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* in 2015 they are hacked by phineas fisher<!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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* after their data leaked the italian government revokes their license to sell spyware outside europe<!-- .element: class="fragment" -->
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All around HackingTeam is one of the most notorious cyber surveillance vendors EVER.
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## HackingTeam and swiss universities?
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in 2019 the company is bought by the swiss/italian InTheCyber Group and turned into "Memento Labs"
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/inthecyber.jpg"/>
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InTheCyber ceo and founder Paolo Lezzi claims that the company only provides spyware in compliance "with all the conditions of the international community, especially the western community".
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## HackingTeam and swiss universities?
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<img src="/img/decks/surveillance/moniTOR.jpg"/>
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- between 2020 and 2022
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- inthecyber and supsi
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- supsi is ticinesi sister of eth (as far as i understand it)
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- funding from inosuisse (federal science funding)
|
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- joint developed PrevenTer and MoniTor
|
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- preventer: voice recognition and transcription tool
|
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- moniTor: tor deanonymization tool
|
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|
- sold at surveillance converences in dubai and in other places, with customers everywhere
|
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|
- inthecyber also still sells surveillance tools, for example also in the gulf states
|
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|
||||||
|
InTheCyber and supsi also partner in various other cantonal and federal programs, including alliance SOS, a project in the canton of ticino that helps companies when they suffer cyber attacks.
|
||||||
|
|
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|
- memento labs employees also talked at a swiss department of foreign affairs training conference for governments in south east asia
|
||||||
|
- they spoke from an "attacker perspective"
|
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|
|
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|
---
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|
## the fight starts with you!
|
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|
|
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|
Note:
|
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|
|
||||||
|
- fight has to be fought on *all* fronts
|
||||||
|
- stronger together
|
||||||
|
- on the streets, hacktivists, journalists, or everywhere else future is built
|
||||||
|
- join the fight with whatever means you have
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
|
---
|
||||||
|
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|
|
||||||
|
## thanks for listening!
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
|
you can find me:
|
||||||
|
* on twitter: @awawawhoami
|
||||||
|
* on bluesky: @crimew.gay
|
||||||
|
* on instagram: @nyancrimew
|
||||||
|
* on my website: maia.crimew.gay
|
||||||
|
* at the apéro after the talks :p
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