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title: "#OPAbortACPeds - operation abort acpeds"
date: 2023-04-22
description: "“Someone Important Is Going To Die”: In Meeting With Abortion Pill Case Plaintiffs, Leading Anti-Abortion Lobbyist Fantasized About “Liberals” Dying From Self-Managed Abortions As Pretext To Ban Mifepristone"
tags:
- abortion rights
- politics
- leak
feature_image: /img/posts/opabortacpeds/cover.jpg
feature_alt: "an extremely unflattering screenshot of jill simons talking in a zoom call"
---
> **note:** this is a collaborative release, the release and note below were worked on by multiple people, also this release is only a snippet of the data availabe to us and more of it will be released in the future
**OPAbortACPeds pt 1.zip (~3.9GB) [torrent](/files/OPAbortACPeds1.torrent) ([magnet](magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9ed6bc85bcd461c696cb39321743426faaf07b05))**
**files:** 1h16m zoom meeting of american college of pediatricians (acpeds) and susan b. anthony list (sba list) on 2022 march 24, discussing the upcoming dobbs v. jackson ruling overturning roe v. wade later leaked on 2022 may 2, in a manner that suggests advance knowledge of the decision; archive of sbalist private pre-Dobbs/post-Dobbs planning website and materials; acpeds internal strategy documents, meeting minutes, emails and other communications regarding dobbs, mifepristone, alliance for Hippocratic medicine, and collaborations with other plaintiffs
## background
acpeds is currently a plaintiff in alliance for hippocratic medicine v. fda, a case before the us supreme court seeking to withdraw the approval of the abortion pill mifepristone nationally. acpeds and other far-right Christian groups under the ahm umbrella (Christian medical & dental associations, American association of pro-life obstetricians & gynecologists) are represented by the virulently anti-lgbt alliance defending freedom (adf). Amicus briefs in ahm v. fda were also filed by sba list, national catholic bioethics center (ncbc) and charlotte lozier institute.
### 2022 march 24 pre-dobbs meeting
**meeting participants:** felipe vizcarrondo (acpeds), robin pierucci (acpeds pro-life council), jill simons (acpeds co-interim executive director with quentin l. van meter), arina grossu (acpeds comms strategist/lozier institute/trump admin hhs), anne nealen, sue swayze liebel (susan b. Anthony list state affairs lobbyist)
Sue Swayze Liebel, 16:23-17:04: “We want to emphasize that the likely outcome of Dobbs will be to allow to take it back to the states. Overturn Roe, and go back to before Roe, which is when each state got to decide. … **The bad thing is it doesnt outlaw abortion across the board. Thats going to make 50 different states, state decisions, and 50 different fights coming up.** So put on your seatbelt for that one.”
*Liebel, 18:25:* “Im from Indiana. Theoretically, there could be, it probably wont be this way but there could be 8,000 more pregnant women next year. Like, boom! Here they are. Because Indiana will make abortion illegal.”
*Liebel, 19:47:* “Because when Roe gets overturned, the media is going to go insane, theyre going to lose their minds.”
*Liebel, 24:00:* “You remember the Kavanaugh hearings, when there was so much violence and rudeness? I mean, its gonna look like that, yeah. The arguing is going to be just very intense.”
*Liebel, 27:07:* “But I dont know that theyre gonna do that, because all these years, we have put our big toe on that line. Whatever that line we thought was viability, we went back. We tried for 15, we tried for heartbeat, we tried for 10, we tried for this, we tried for that. So were gonna whatever they set it at, well just keep trying to bring it back.”
*Liebel, 27:53:* “I think theyre going to I think theyre going to do away with the viability standard. I dont think theyll be talking about viability any more.”
*Liebel, 34:36:* “In the beginning of this, I thought, yeah, sure, right, theyre gonna give us 15 weeks, and here we go. But Im convinced, I dont think they will. Because when they give us a limit, whether its viability this last 48 years, or whether it would be 15 lets say, **we still push it all into court and clog up the courts, and were gonna keep pushing and nothing will change. The pro-life community will keep pushing that across the line, and well try to go to 14, and to 13, and to 12 were gonna keep being bad boys and girls and keep - and just flood the courts.** And so I think they know that, I think theyre not gonna settle that by doing that.”
*Liebel, 38:01:* “What Im about to say is not a statement by the Susan B. Anthony List, but it is of course a personal position of my own. **I used to think that Planned Parenthood was my enemy. And now Im starting to realize that the modern medical profession is actually who I also fight every day.”**
*Liebel, 47:18:* “You close the front door, but the pills are going out the back door. Or theres no door, shes just ordering it online and it comes straight to her home and nobody knows it.”
*Liebel, 47:46:* “Its kind of like its going to come back on the medical community one way or another, but its going to be devastating at some point. **I happen to believe that someones going to someone… someone important is going to die. Some movie stars sister or some singers girlfriend or, you know, I mean somebody that the liberals will care about.** And then itll bring some attention to that issue.”
*Liebel, 48:20:* “We really are going to have to beef up the services that we provide to women. So if you dont volunteer already for a crisis pregnancy center or womens care network type of place, or just your local Catholic Charities, or anything, I really recommend that you do.”
*Liebel, 48:50:* “I think that youre going to find theyre gonna flourish. And there are gonna be a lot of new creative solutions, and creative programs, and health and wellness-oriented programs thatll be expanding.”
*Liebel, 49:20:* “And this is gonna be really tricky for the conservative community, like I used to work on my family policy council and Im a super conservative person. So by default, you know, were like we dont want to increase social services, we dont more welfare spending, we dont want all that. Well, of course not. However, we want to end abortion. And when we end abortion, were gonna have more women needing services. **Now not all those women are poor, that is a fallacy. Many of those women are just college girls that dont want to be pregnant. Right? But theres going to be a demand for services. And women are going to have to be shown that theyre worthy, theyre worthy of care.”**
### the rest
Acpeds files contain their collaborations with the cmda, aaplog, and adf, their long term efforts against mifepristone, against contraception, against transitioning, against marriage equality, against gay parents, in favor of conversion therapy on children, in favor of parents hitting their children as a punishment, in favor of medical abuse and forced detransition, and in favor of forced pregnancy and birth
Ahm v fda dockets: [2:22-cv-00223](https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65768749/alliance-for-hippocratic-medicine-v-us-food-and-drug-administration/), [23-10362](https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67164167/alliance-hippocratic-medicine-v-fda/)
on a personal note: your dark money and your false god did not stop this from happening to you. today you get to learn what it feels like to be helpless. you left women to be killed and maimed by denial of medical care, you abandoned them to die of sepsis and haemorrhage or to a life of domestic servitude, trapped with men who rape and abuse them and their children into the grave. you are death addicts, you are the anti-everyone, and everyone will stop you. it is the year 2023, we will not suffer the sophistry of cultists pretending a man could magically reanimate, and then making us watch as you let pregnant people die. No more. we will starve you in your womb. we will not let you kill us and we will not let our friends and family die and we will never let the future fall to you. the future is female and the future is pro-abortion, the future is a liberated uterus and drag shows and school pride clubs, the future is trans, queer, beautiful, alive and free
there is more to come from your files
fuck matthew kacsmaryk
fuck the federalist society
remember eden knight 🔆
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